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  Eat your turkey, not your hair

  by Elsewhere in

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  http://www.cnn.com/2007/health/11/21/hairball.case/index.html?iref=mpstoryview.

  doctors untangle the strange case of the giant hairballstory highlights patient complained of weight loss, pain and vomiting after eating.

  woman suffered from trichophagia: a habit of eating her hair.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Neither dressing nor stuffing could save this entree. I hope she gets therapy. Very gross pic, thanks!!! Happy TG!!
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  An open letter to new posters who are here only to irk us--not for solace

  by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit in

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  first of all, happy thanksgiving!

  my roast is going into the oven shortly; no dressing or stuffing here.

  dear new posters who are here to irk us and not for solace,.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Hi All. First of all, Happy Thanksgiving! My roast is going into the oven shortly; no dressing OR stuffing here.

  Dear New Posters who are here to irk us and not for solace,

  Hello and welcome to JWD. I'm glad you're here, and I'll tell you just why in a bit; I'd like to first note a few observations about you.

  I notice that you make negative blanket statements about everyone on this site and that you speak without having read near every post made in the last year. I also notice that this is your first post. I see that you have never welcomed a new person here, or read a post by a broken person who has lost his or her family and replied with tenderness and shared their sadness. I see that you've never shared a recipe, posted a news article that others would find entertaining or been supportive when someone has asked for advice. You never cheered for someone's 1 year anniversary away from their past life or their new job or baby.

  I see that you have not posted your story of how difficult it was to leave the religion of your parents, to have them deny you, to be called a drunk or an addict or a whore!! because these can be the only reasons for your feelings about the WTS, or to have friends 'shun' you because they view your very presence in, say, a restaurant, as dangerous to their faith. You don't speak of the pain and confusion of explaining your new beliefs to your family, only to have them tell you that you're insane and weak and stupid, and are being led by someone to your death.

  You don't speak of your father, who was the wisest man you knew growing up, who defends the actions of an organization that has protected child abusers for decades and denies the truth of news reports of the largest child sex-abuse settlement in history, or defends the WTS's double-tongued involvement with the UN as an NGO for over a decade by mimicking the words he was told on the telephone by the WT service desk, you haven't mentioned being torn by his mindless obedience to human men, something he swore he never do again.

  Well friend, aside from these observations of mine, I am glad you're here. I'm glad you're here because you remind me of why I left the JW religion: They do not practice what they preach, they do not practice the words of Jesus. Here's what I mean. You say to us, 'Let go of the hate, your whining makes me vomit, there's dissension on this site omg!!, go do some good to a poor person instead of whining' and this is exactly the stance taken in the congregations of JWs when someone asks for help-it was my experience. Here are the JW answers to all of life's ills: If you're depressed--you're not doing enough for others. If you're broke--you're careless with money 'do you contribute to the WWW regularly? If you're lonely--you're not spending enough time in the ministry. If an elder was mean and cruel to you--you have a bad attitude and have to forgive him! If you're working late--you need to be at the meetings at time!!! Wait, you have to support your family, but you have to be on time, but. .

  Friend, I noticed that 'James Wind's' topic received 3 pages of replies, and I'm not criticizing the decision of others to reply. I'm actually thinking that possibly James Wind, Blake Seeley, Carl Hernz, Charles Hunter ([email protected] per his post) are maybe related somehow; I can't help but picture them all sitting down to turkey today and James Wind saying 'I sure got 'em riled up this week, heh heh, more dressing please. . .' Possibly they won't call it "Thanksgiving" or even "turkey", possibly they will call it 'a day off common to all of us for having much poultry'. Please don't consider me rude, I won't dignify your accusing posts with more words and I wanted to tell you why.

  Now, I know there are dozens, if not thousands, of people who now have access to the Email Machine/Internet, but it just sounds a little odd that someone would pop in here and his first post is wandering and wordy like BlakeSeeley's. And I'm not suggesting that you/they are all the same fella, no no, I'm only just thinking that maybe you're/they're having Thanksgiving together.

  Hey, just so you know, my mom and dad and I were best friends, pioneered & travelled together like forever--they called me a drug addict (which I'm not) and now won't speak to me because I don't share their religious beliefs--of course I hate their religion. I miss them, I miss lifelong friends and my sisters, of course I hate their religion, it is true evil; it has made them fulfill their own 'end times' prophecy: they are the ones 'having no natural affection'.

  Of course there is hypocrisy, bloodguilt and stupidity elsewhere on the planet, we're not stupid. But JW's do claim to be perfect as an organization, and they claim that the worst JW is better than the best 'worldly' person. They are the best/happiest/cleanest/rightest/most-adored by hotel staff/healthiest people on earth, according to their written words. And when we/someone/anyone points out where they just may be wrong, they do 1 or all of 3 things, hum it with me--we all know this: Attack me, attack my words, question my source.

  They people on this site are truly some of the best people on Earth. Like others, this site has saved me, helped me, benefitted soooo many and I am grateful. An outsider/apologist that's here to jab and run doesn't deserve them.

  Hugs to all, and Happy and Safe Holidays!!

  Catfish
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  Hi everyone

  by the widow in

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  i have been out of the borg for several years.

  my husband got us out by reading coc.

  we were pretty well against organized religion of any sort.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Greetings and welcome. I'm so sorry about your dear one, but glad you are here. Please give us regular reports of your witnessing! you know, for old times' sake.
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  "it just looks good on paper"

  by Gilberto in

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  the "where's your jacket brother" thread reminded me of an incident.. i was conducting 4 bible studies two on a monday evening, one wednesday evening and one on a sunday morning.

  i was working full time.. so the only first call i did was on an saturday morning for an hour (the cats ministry.

  on a "shepherding call" (don't you just hate that) the elder told me i should be going out with the group on a sunday morning and do rvs on a saturday.

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  Back when my husband wanted to be 'used' in the cong, 'looking good on paper' was all that counted--Brother Loser with 5 kids turned in 20 hrs a month (I was told) and therefore could be 'used', I said he better Fn turn in 20--that accounts for studying with all his kids and NO OTHER service whatsoever.

  However, my husband worked 60 hrs a week (so that I could regular pioneer) and consistently FOR YEARS turned in 8-9 hrs per mo. They wouldn't 'use' him/consider him of value because his yearly average was 8.9 hrs per month not 10.

  It all started to stink. . .
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  Stuffing or Dressing?

  by reneeisorym in

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  do ya'll all realize that in the south we eat dressing and not stuffing?

  these are two different things.. i hate stuffing!

  i used to have to eat it when my ex-husband's grandmother cooked it.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  There must be a way to unite us over the dressing vs. stuffing debate. You'd think we'd be past this.

  I'm making a roast and new red potatoes, and if I have to start my own forum because of this, well, so be it.
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  Watchtower website

  by cooler in

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  my dad was looking and the official watchtower website and he said it has such a truthfull and genine look about it and how i should'nt read the forums because people's opinions on there are misguided and they dont know what their talking about.

  has anyone said anything similar to you?

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  btw-your dad's logic is earth shattering: the WT website looks so truthful. . .
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  Watchtower website

  by cooler in

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  my dad was looking and the official watchtower website and he said it has such a truthfull and genine look about it and how i should'nt read the forums because people's opinions on there are misguided and they dont know what their talking about.

  has anyone said anything similar to you?

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Welcome cooler. Great 1st post! It's crazy. The first time I emailed a doctrine 'problem' to my parents, they replied 'who have you been talking to? you must have got that from the internet!' I couldn't believe it, 'you know me--I've never had an original thought in my pointy little head!!!'

  Look forward to hearing more from you!
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  I don't wanna be a Group!

  by blueviceroy in

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  what happens when you feel labeling what what you hold to be real would be wrong?.

  what school of thought is that?.

  to whom do i go to when i need to be a part of something greater than myself?.

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Great thread Blue. Well said.

  Thanks for being here.
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  JW ALLEGEDLY SEEN WITH MADELEINE MCCANN

  by badboy in

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  i wonerif police will be dgginng up kingom halls next in the search for madeleine mccann..

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Would the elders 'drop her like a hot potato' if it's found she's involved with a kidnapping? No silly, there must be two witnesses in GOOD standing, preferrably a CO, DO or Jesus Christ. . . to the alleged event.
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  Jehovah's Witness Tragedy: 24 dead; 13 in critical condition

  by Kenneson in

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  in nigeria, a bus carrying mostly jehovah's witness women, collided with a large truck on a return trip from a wedding ceremony.

  24 died; doctors at a hospital are trying to save 13 others.

  see "nigeria: road accident claims 24 in abia.".

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  Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit

  Dreadfully sad.